1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,480 I am here to discuss the so-called flying saucers. 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:20,640 The Air Force interest in this problem has been due to our feeling of an obligation to 3 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:27,280 identify anything in the air that may have the possibility of threat or menace to the 4 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:36,280 United States. 5 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,280 There's another one. 6 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,280 This could be it. 7 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:26,280 I'm here to discuss the so-called flying saucers. 8 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:33,640 They highly anticipated hearing on Capitol Hill about unidentified flying objects or 9 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:34,640 UFOs. 10 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:40,360 The unusual house oversight hearing on what's being called unidentified aerial phenomena. 11 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,080 Both Republicans and Democrats investigating the supernatural. 12 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,920 Congress, which for years has avoided this topic of unidentified phenomena, will give 13 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:53,520 it a big and bipartisan platform. 14 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:54,880 So this was different. 15 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,880 This was different than anything that had ever come before. 16 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:03,400 We had hearings on UFOs, but this was the first time in history you have people that 17 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:08,920 are direct eyewitnesses or in one case an actual whistleblower coming forward in front 18 00:02:08,920 --> 00:02:12,160 of Congress. 19 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,480 This was an official on the record testimony under oath. 20 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,040 You have Lieutenant Ryan Graves. 21 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,720 I'm a former F-A team pilot with a Decade of Service in the U.S. Navy, including two 22 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,240 deployments in operation during freedom and operation inherent resolve. 23 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:30,200 Lieutenant Ryan Graves is representing a whole bunch of pilots. 24 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:35,560 Flight safety, this whole idea of near misses, things coming into our restricted airspace 25 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,240 that are unknown to us. 26 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,080 Then you have Commander David Fraber. 27 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,360 I'm a retired commander in the United States Navy. 28 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,400 In 2004 I was a commanding officer of Strike Fighter Squadron 41, the world-famous Black 29 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,400 Aces. 30 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:55,520 I think David Fraber not only saw a UFO, he engaged a UFO for the United States military. 31 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,040 So you've got these three people, last one being David Grush. 32 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,640 My name is David Charles Grush. 33 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:03,320 I was an intelligence officer for 14 years. 34 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:08,240 I was my agency's co-lead and unidentified anomalous phenomena and trans-medium object 35 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:15,000 analysis as well as reporting to the UAP task force, I believe strongly in the importance 36 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,640 of bringing this information before you. 37 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:23,320 I am driven by a commitment to both truth and transparency, rooted in our inherent 38 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:31,000 duty to uphold the United States Constitution and protect the American people. 39 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,760 George Knapp and I fought hard with a lot of others behind the scenes to make sure that 40 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,840 this hearing could happen. 41 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,200 I'd like people to understand the gravity of this. 42 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,760 It has been since the inception of the UFO problem. 43 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,080 Nothing to see here, move on, all of that. 44 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,760 All of that has changed. 45 00:03:52,760 --> 00:04:06,960 All right, let's do this. 46 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,000 My name is Jeremy Corbell. 47 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,720 I'm an investigative journalist and a filmmaker and this has been an obsession of mine is 48 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:19,560 trying to get to the ground truth of what UFOs represent to humanity. 49 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,680 The two musketeers are the front lines of UFO disclosure. 50 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,880 It is scary if that's true, Joe. 51 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,480 I think you guys are. 52 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,200 Jeremy's an interesting guy. 53 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,560 He's actually been doing this for a long time. 54 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:36,840 If you go back and look at the content that's been being put out over the past 15 or so 55 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:42,720 years, Jeremy has been pursuing this topic doggedly for a long time and has been someone 56 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,720 who has really kept the fires burning even when there wasn't a ton of media attention 57 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:48,720 out there. 58 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,640 And it's been really cool to see him team up with George Knapp, who's really kind of 59 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:57,480 an OG of the UFO investigation world and to see the work that they've been able to do 60 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:02,840 together and to see them finally be able to take this across the finish line was a pretty 61 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:05,840 cool moment. 62 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:10,840 How's it going? 63 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:12,840 All right. 64 00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:15,840 Who are you from? 65 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:18,840 What do you expect us to come from out of here? 66 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:21,840 Well, more transparency on this topic. 67 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:23,840 Long overdue. 68 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:33,840 Good morning. 69 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:40,840 Good morning. 70 00:05:40,840 --> 00:05:41,840 Yes. 71 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:43,840 Thanks, sir. 72 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:45,840 Thanks. 73 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:52,840 Three men who previously served in the military are set to speak publicly about what they 74 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:55,840 saw in the sky and heard behind closed doors. 75 00:05:55,840 --> 00:05:57,840 There's two big questions in this world. 76 00:05:57,840 --> 00:05:59,840 What happens when we die and are we alone? 77 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:01,840 And the Pentagon's talking about one of them right now. 78 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:02,840 So it's interesting as hell. 79 00:06:02,840 --> 00:06:07,840 The great deal of interest here, the watch parties, the people who will be lining up early 80 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:09,840 to try to go in person. 81 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:14,840 I think these three brave witnesses here, they took an oath to uphold the Constitution 82 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:16,840 and the United States and bad gamut. 83 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:18,840 They're doing it. 84 00:06:18,840 --> 00:06:21,840 What I personally witnessed myself is very disturbing. 85 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:26,840 The U.S. is in possession of quote, non-human spacecraft. 86 00:06:26,840 --> 00:06:34,840 UAPs, whatever they may be, may pose a serious threat to our military or civilian aircraft. 87 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:36,840 The incident was never investigated. 88 00:06:36,840 --> 00:06:37,840 None of my crew ever questioned. 89 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:39,840 Do you believe that our government is in possession of UAPs? 90 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:43,840 Absolutely based on interviewing over 40 witnesses over four years. 91 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:48,840 Is there any indication that these UAPs are interested in our nuclear technology and capabilities? 92 00:06:48,840 --> 00:06:49,840 Yes. 93 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:50,840 It's getting close. 94 00:06:50,840 --> 00:06:51,840 It's flashed. 95 00:06:51,840 --> 00:06:52,840 Mark Ferry and Range. 96 00:06:52,840 --> 00:06:55,840 Were they human or non-human biologics? 97 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:56,840 Non-human. 98 00:06:56,840 --> 00:06:58,840 There's a whole fleet of them coming to S.A. 99 00:06:58,840 --> 00:07:02,840 Do you have any personal knowledge of people who have been harmed or injured in efforts 100 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:05,840 to cover up or conceal these extraterrestrial technology? 101 00:07:05,840 --> 00:07:06,840 Yes. 102 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:07,840 Personally. 103 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:12,840 Have you heard of anyone been murdered? 104 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,840 I'm going to be careful asking that question. 105 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:19,840 The gravity for what's going on with UFOs right now couldn't be more important. 106 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,840 There's no going back from this, man. 107 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:27,840 This is the moment that we define are we going to have this conversation or are we not? 108 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:32,840 This is the first time you have people that are there that have the impetus to tell the 109 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:33,840 American public the truth. 110 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,840 So how did we get here? 111 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,840 How did we get here today? 112 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:57,840 Pentagon's secret UFO program revealed the military spending millions of dollars to look 113 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,840 into UFO sightings and videos from American fighter pilots all being made public. 114 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:07,340 The remarkable admission by the Pentagon came as a result of reporting by the New York Times, 115 00:08:07,340 --> 00:08:14,340 which published a story of the mysterious UFO program over the weekend. 116 00:08:14,340 --> 00:08:21,340 In 2017, two colleagues and I published this front page Sunday New York Times piece revealing 117 00:08:21,340 --> 00:08:26,840 for the first time that Pentagon was not out of the UFO business as it had long claimed, 118 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:36,340 but was really very much involved in tracking UFOs. 119 00:08:36,340 --> 00:08:41,340 The article broke the news that there was a secret unit which we called ATIP funded with 120 00:08:41,340 --> 00:08:48,340 $22 million in secret funding to track and investigate encounters between Navy jets and 121 00:08:48,340 --> 00:08:57,340 unknown objects that had been flying around carrier groups on the west coast and the east 122 00:08:57,340 --> 00:09:01,340 coast and in some cases were seen churning underwater. 123 00:09:01,340 --> 00:09:04,340 How surprised were you about this Pentagon program? 124 00:09:04,340 --> 00:09:08,340 It was a surprise program with a $22 million budget. 125 00:09:08,340 --> 00:09:13,340 This is the revelation that the conspiracy theorists have been looking for all along with the 126 00:09:13,340 --> 00:09:15,340 government knows there are actually UFOs. 127 00:09:15,340 --> 00:09:21,340 Well, it's always impossible to know what the conspiracy theorists are thinking. 128 00:09:21,340 --> 00:09:26,340 The head of the program, a man named Luis Elizondo, who had long intelligence history 129 00:09:26,340 --> 00:09:31,340 and credentials, had just submitted his resignation to the secretary of defense because he was 130 00:09:31,340 --> 00:09:34,340 being floored by superiors in the Pentagon. 131 00:09:34,340 --> 00:09:38,340 It was about the craziest thing that's happened to the UFO community because what we had here 132 00:09:38,340 --> 00:09:43,340 is we had some Pulitzer Prize winning journalists dropping this article and so suddenly, 133 00:09:43,340 --> 00:09:48,340 UFOs were something that were being talked about seriously and the world kind of changed after that. 134 00:09:52,340 --> 00:09:56,340 Tell us what the purpose of the program was and why it was so secretive. 135 00:09:56,340 --> 00:10:01,340 The purpose of the program, Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, 136 00:10:01,340 --> 00:10:04,340 was really designed to do just that. 137 00:10:04,340 --> 00:10:10,340 From a national security perspective, identify those things that we see. 138 00:10:10,340 --> 00:10:16,340 But there were those people, especially on the web, who tried to downplay and undercut the article, 139 00:10:16,340 --> 00:10:22,340 but the government never succeeded really in undermining the reporting we did. 140 00:10:22,340 --> 00:10:27,340 It didn't fully endorse it. It claimed at some points that Luis Elizondo was not who he said he was. 141 00:10:27,340 --> 00:10:32,340 We had checked him out thoroughly. We had his performance records. We had his whole intelligence history. 142 00:10:32,340 --> 00:10:35,340 So we knew who our sources were and we had vetted them thoroughly. 143 00:10:35,340 --> 00:10:41,340 Luis is a real patriot. He's done some pretty powerful stuff when it comes to moving this dialogue forward 144 00:10:41,340 --> 00:10:43,340 and sometimes at his own peril, at his own risk. 145 00:10:43,340 --> 00:10:47,340 Do you believe that life from somewhere else came here? 146 00:10:47,340 --> 00:10:50,340 There is very compelling evidence that we may not be alone. 147 00:10:50,340 --> 00:10:54,340 It was very, very eye-opening in terms of what was going on basically under our noses. 148 00:10:54,340 --> 00:10:59,340 We all thought UAP had been debunked years ago as rubbish, as tripe. 149 00:10:59,340 --> 00:11:06,340 We thought it was just like a, you know, 60s or 50s issue of flying sources and little green men from Venus. 150 00:11:06,340 --> 00:11:12,340 So it was kind of an exciting story on many levels and it drew a tremendous reaction. 151 00:11:12,340 --> 00:11:19,340 The Pentagon now confirms the existence of a secretive UFO program tasked with investigating reports of unidentified flying objects. 152 00:11:19,340 --> 00:11:24,340 We're learning this morning about a Pentagon program that spent millions of dollars to look into UFO sightings. 153 00:11:24,340 --> 00:11:28,340 The Pentagon ended funding but the New York Times reports the program remains in existence. 154 00:11:28,340 --> 00:11:34,340 And mainstream media quickly picked up on this story because we were treating it seriously at the New York Times. 155 00:11:34,340 --> 00:11:38,340 It gathered somewhat more gravitas and seriousness. 156 00:11:38,340 --> 00:11:44,340 The articles in the New York Times 2017 removed the stigma on the topic of UFOs, which is why we're here today. 157 00:11:44,340 --> 00:11:48,340 Those articles opened the door for the government and public that cannot be closed. 158 00:11:48,340 --> 00:11:55,340 That 2017 article really popped the bubble for a lot of people. 159 00:11:55,340 --> 00:12:01,340 There's a whole fleet of them. Look on the essay. 160 00:12:01,340 --> 00:12:10,340 The videos that we ran on the New York Times website, the three videos of encounters between these Navy jets and these objects, it was sensational. 161 00:12:10,340 --> 00:12:14,340 The videos were among the most watched ever in the history of the New York Times. 162 00:12:15,340 --> 00:12:24,340 The US Navy has finally acknowledged that videos appearing to show UFOs flying through the air are real. 163 00:12:24,340 --> 00:12:28,340 The several videos they're talking about were recorded years ago by fighter pilots. 164 00:12:28,340 --> 00:12:32,340 Then in 2017 they were made public by the New York Times. 165 00:12:32,340 --> 00:12:37,340 The Tic Tac, the Gimbal and the Go Fast UFO. 166 00:12:37,340 --> 00:12:45,340 Those three videos were kind of first exposure for people that we have these unidentified that are flying in restricted airspace. 167 00:13:08,340 --> 00:13:18,340 I'd like to say that the Tic Tac object we engaged in 2004 was far superior to anything that we had on time, have today or are looking to develop in the next 10 years. 168 00:13:23,340 --> 00:13:30,340 All of this was on a clear day off the coast of California. This is not wartime nerves. This is not like pilot error. 169 00:13:30,340 --> 00:13:33,340 This is not some sort of glitch in the radar system. 170 00:13:33,340 --> 00:13:38,340 You've got a craft of unknown origin that shouldn't be there. Now that is a big deal. 171 00:13:38,340 --> 00:13:49,340 These objects coming down from over 80,000 feet, rapidly descending to 20,000 feet, hanging out for hours and then going straight back up for those that don't realize above 80,000 feet is space. 172 00:13:52,340 --> 00:14:02,340 We talk about 80,000 feet. That's a real sensitive thing. Anything above 80,000 feet, we're talking about satellite hardware. 173 00:14:02,340 --> 00:14:07,340 That is some of the most protected assets the United States military has. 174 00:14:10,340 --> 00:14:18,340 If the aircraft was armed, you believe that your aircraft or any aircraft in possession of the United States could have shot the Tic Tac down. 175 00:14:22,340 --> 00:14:30,340 I'd say no. The technology that we faced was far superior than anything that we had and there's nothing we can do about it. Nothing. 176 00:14:33,340 --> 00:14:42,340 Allright.. 177 00:14:46,340 --> 00:14:55,340 So we got the data that we traded in an aircraft! 178 00:14:55,340 --> 00:14:57,340 My God. 179 00:14:57,340 --> 00:14:59,340 They're all going against the wind. 180 00:14:59,340 --> 00:15:00,340 The wind's 100. 181 00:15:00,340 --> 00:15:01,340 Point out to the west. 182 00:15:01,340 --> 00:15:02,340 Oh, I think so. 183 00:15:02,340 --> 00:15:13,780 The gimbal video, it is incredible to see the mechanical rotation of this machine, and 184 00:15:13,780 --> 00:15:17,780 you can hear the pilots, and they're all as they're watching this. 185 00:15:17,780 --> 00:15:24,780 Yeah, that's fucking going on, bro. 186 00:15:24,780 --> 00:15:33,780 There's a whole fleet of them, look on the SA. 187 00:15:33,780 --> 00:15:34,780 My God. 188 00:15:34,780 --> 00:15:35,780 They're all going against the wind. 189 00:15:35,780 --> 00:15:36,780 The wind's 100. 190 00:15:36,780 --> 00:15:37,780 Point out to the west. 191 00:15:37,780 --> 00:15:38,780 Oh, I think so. 192 00:15:38,780 --> 00:15:39,780 The gimbal, isn't it? 193 00:15:39,780 --> 00:15:40,780 The recording on the AT FLIR system shows a single object that rotates. 194 00:15:40,780 --> 00:15:44,780 You hear the pilots refer to a fleet of objects that is not visible on the FLIR system. 195 00:15:44,780 --> 00:15:48,780 It just goes to show how serious this is and why this is such an important issue for our 196 00:15:48,780 --> 00:15:52,780 pilots and for our nation. 197 00:15:52,780 --> 00:15:55,780 Navy pilots are the most trained observers we have. 198 00:15:55,780 --> 00:15:58,780 Millions of dollars has spent training these people, so if they say they've seen something, 199 00:15:58,780 --> 00:16:03,780 that counts for something special, and that's why the Navy videos were so important, because 200 00:16:03,780 --> 00:16:08,780 they captured electronically things that, until then, were just anecdotal. 201 00:16:08,780 --> 00:16:09,780 Now, that's the best. 202 00:16:09,780 --> 00:16:11,780 It's not doing that on our stand. 203 00:16:11,780 --> 00:16:14,780 But, if there's a good thing, it's rotating. 204 00:16:14,780 --> 00:16:16,780 Here's the part that people don't know. 205 00:16:16,780 --> 00:16:20,780 There are four extra minutes to that gimbal footage. 206 00:16:20,780 --> 00:16:21,780 There's four extra minutes. 207 00:16:21,780 --> 00:16:23,780 The gimbal was not alone. 208 00:16:23,780 --> 00:16:26,780 There was a V-formation of UFOs in front of it. 209 00:16:26,780 --> 00:16:30,780 Now, why has that not been released to the American and the global public? 210 00:16:30,780 --> 00:16:31,780 Why? 211 00:16:31,780 --> 00:16:35,780 We need to have this type of footage in the science of a community's hands. 212 00:16:35,780 --> 00:16:38,780 But footage off like that, that was a choice. 213 00:17:05,780 --> 00:17:16,780 So, the Go Fast is like the trilogy, the Go Fast video. 214 00:17:16,780 --> 00:17:19,780 This is not a rare phenomenon. 215 00:17:19,780 --> 00:17:26,780 Pilots are passing, seeing, catching on radar, sometimes even locking on, on a daily basis 216 00:17:26,780 --> 00:17:30,780 with these unknowns that can outmaneuver our own craft. 217 00:17:35,780 --> 00:17:47,780 The objects are performing maneuvers that are unexplainable due to our current understanding 218 00:17:47,780 --> 00:17:50,780 of our technology and our capabilities as a country. 219 00:17:50,780 --> 00:17:52,780 And that applies for military as well. 220 00:17:52,780 --> 00:17:55,780 We've had 14 near misses with aircraft. 221 00:17:55,780 --> 00:18:02,780 You're talking 50, 60, maybe 100 million dollar aircraft with some of the best trained men and women in the air. 222 00:18:02,780 --> 00:18:05,780 That's serious, and that's in our airspace. 223 00:18:05,780 --> 00:18:09,780 What percentage of UAP sightings in your belief go unreported by our pilots? 224 00:18:09,780 --> 00:18:12,780 I would estimate we're somewhere near 5% reporting, perhaps. 225 00:18:12,780 --> 00:18:18,780 They basically admitted there was nothing they could do if the craft they encountered turned out to be hostile. 226 00:18:18,780 --> 00:18:20,780 There was no way they could defend themselves. 227 00:18:20,780 --> 00:18:23,780 Now, think of that as you look up into the sky. 228 00:18:25,780 --> 00:18:29,780 The Americans being the greatest superpower the Earth has ever known. 229 00:18:29,780 --> 00:18:34,780 You don't have dominance of your own skies, and the US Air Force does not want to admit that. 230 00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:36,780 So now the conversation is being had. 231 00:18:36,780 --> 00:18:39,780 People started pushing to get more information out. 232 00:18:39,780 --> 00:18:44,780 The stranglehold on the UFO issue has always been with the intelligence agency. 233 00:18:47,780 --> 00:18:50,780 I have sources in every single agency. 234 00:18:50,780 --> 00:18:54,780 I'm not trying to brag about that, what I'm trying to do is put the fear of fucking God into people. 235 00:18:54,780 --> 00:18:55,780 That is fact. 236 00:18:55,780 --> 00:18:56,780 People are fed up. 237 00:18:56,780 --> 00:18:59,780 People are fed up with keeping the secret. 238 00:19:05,780 --> 00:19:07,780 I actually want to ask about UFOs. 239 00:19:08,780 --> 00:19:15,780 Does the president believe in the existence of UFOs, and would he be interested in restoring funding for that program? 240 00:19:15,780 --> 00:19:19,780 Somehow that question hasn't come up in our back and forth over the last couple days, 241 00:19:19,780 --> 00:19:22,780 but I will check into that and be happy to circle back. 242 00:19:27,780 --> 00:19:33,780 One of the things you have as president is the access to all the information in the world. 243 00:19:33,780 --> 00:19:34,780 All the mysteries out there. 244 00:19:34,780 --> 00:19:40,780 And I was just struck in the last couple weeks, really more and more reports of Navy pilots seeing lots and lots of UFOs. 245 00:19:40,780 --> 00:19:42,780 Have you been briefed on that? What do you make of it? 246 00:19:42,780 --> 00:19:47,780 I did have one very brief meeting on it, but people are saying they're seeing UFOs. 247 00:19:47,780 --> 00:19:51,780 We have presidents making overt comments about the UFO phenomenon. 248 00:19:51,780 --> 00:19:53,780 How seriously they take it. 249 00:19:53,780 --> 00:19:56,780 There was a sea change. You've got everybody talking about it. 250 00:19:56,780 --> 00:20:02,780 When it comes to aliens, there's some things I just can't tell you, but what is true, 251 00:20:02,780 --> 00:20:15,780 and I'm actually being serious here, is that there are, there's footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are. 252 00:20:15,780 --> 00:20:21,780 When I was president, we made every attempt to find out everything about Roswell. 253 00:20:22,780 --> 00:20:26,780 And we also sent people to Area 51 to make sure there were no aliens. 254 00:20:26,780 --> 00:20:36,780 Another coffee drop moment for me was when Jimmy Kimmel showed some footage that I had obtained and released of military-filmed UAP to George W. Bush. 255 00:20:36,780 --> 00:20:40,780 The first thing I would do if I was president is go right to the UFO files. 256 00:20:40,780 --> 00:20:45,780 I wonder if you've seen this video that has been verified by the Pentagon. 257 00:20:45,780 --> 00:20:50,780 Would you be surprised if we were visited by creatures from another planet? 258 00:20:50,780 --> 00:20:51,780 Yeah. 259 00:20:51,780 --> 00:20:52,780 You would be surprised. 260 00:20:52,780 --> 00:20:53,780 Would you be? 261 00:20:53,780 --> 00:20:54,780 Well, yeah. 262 00:20:54,780 --> 00:20:58,780 They've been really hesitant to get specific about what exactly they've been briefed on. 263 00:20:58,780 --> 00:21:07,780 You know, they have been clear that something strange is going on, and it does sort of indicate that maybe there's some sort of a messaging shift going on behind the scenes. 264 00:21:07,780 --> 00:21:13,780 The truth is, we've found through our reporting that presidents are not routinely briefed. 265 00:21:14,780 --> 00:21:23,780 Viewers might think that, oh, as soon as somebody becomes president, they are led into all the deepest secrets of the government, including UFOs. 266 00:21:23,780 --> 00:21:24,780 Well, that's not true. 267 00:21:24,780 --> 00:21:35,780 What we found in our latest reporting was that this information is the most deeply held secrets in the entire government, and that includes from top officials, including the president of the United States. 268 00:21:35,780 --> 00:21:39,780 The U.S. government knows something unexplained is out there. 269 00:21:39,780 --> 00:21:47,780 The Pentagon hasn't until late June to tell Congress in an unclassified report what it knows about unidentified flying objects. 270 00:21:49,780 --> 00:21:58,780 One of the critical moments is when President Trump signed to make the Pentagon do a report about UFOs, and this was part of the Intelligence Authorization Act. 271 00:21:58,780 --> 00:22:04,780 And that was a big moment that you had 180 days to put together a UFO report. 272 00:22:04,780 --> 00:22:06,780 This is a bomb show. 273 00:22:06,780 --> 00:22:10,780 Do you expect to see real answers in this report? 274 00:22:10,780 --> 00:22:11,780 Look, honestly, I don't think so, Jake. 275 00:22:11,780 --> 00:22:14,780 Look, it takes 180 days to do a report. 276 00:22:14,780 --> 00:22:18,780 It takes longer to remodel a kitchen in your house sometimes. 277 00:22:25,780 --> 00:22:30,780 The long awaited Pentagon report on UFOs has finally been released. 278 00:22:30,780 --> 00:22:36,780 Plenty of unidentified flying objects remain just that unidentified and mysterious. 279 00:22:38,780 --> 00:22:47,780 That UAP report was one of our first indications that this was going to be a marathon and not a sprint, and that there was a lot more work that needed to be done here. 280 00:22:47,780 --> 00:22:55,780 I mean, it was exciting because it was released and it was released publicly, but it's only about nine pages long, including the cover page and the appendix. 281 00:22:55,780 --> 00:22:58,780 It wasn't nearly the blockbuster that people were hoping for. 282 00:22:58,780 --> 00:23:06,780 I was disappointed, like many other people, because the stories I had heard and that we had picked up on in our reporting went way beyond that report. 283 00:23:06,780 --> 00:23:14,780 A lot of it was just them sort of asking for more resources and more funding and talking about the problems that they were having in collecting this data. 284 00:23:14,780 --> 00:23:22,780 U.S. government officials examined 144 reports of UAPs like these and still don't know what 143 of them were. 285 00:23:22,780 --> 00:23:27,780 The report by the Office of National Intelligence found no evidence they came from outer space. 286 00:23:27,780 --> 00:23:33,780 What did strike me is that the report said for the first time that these objects are most likely real. 287 00:23:35,780 --> 00:23:38,780 That was a big breakthrough. The government had not said that before. 288 00:23:38,780 --> 00:23:44,780 That was what the government was probably long afraid of admitting, that they didn't know what these things were. 289 00:23:44,780 --> 00:23:56,780 Among the possibilities they considered, secret U.S. equipment, a foreign adversary's advanced technology, atmospheric conditions, debris in the air, or simply other. 290 00:23:58,780 --> 00:24:09,780 This idea that the phenomenon itself, the UFO, is the physical manifestation of this, the craft, that it's some sort of black project or secret U.S. technology, it's bullshit. 291 00:24:09,780 --> 00:24:11,780 It's always been bullshit. 292 00:24:11,780 --> 00:24:14,780 Oh my gosh! Okay, it's the only truth. What is that? 293 00:24:14,780 --> 00:24:26,780 We've talked to the best experts available, including the fighter pilots themselves, who've gone up and seen these things and said that there is nothing that they're aware of that come close to the aerodynamic possibilities these things have. 294 00:24:28,780 --> 00:24:37,780 Could these objects be spy craft from another country? What do you think? 295 00:24:37,780 --> 00:24:39,780 The bottom line is that we don't know. 296 00:24:41,780 --> 00:24:45,780 If it was Russia, they wouldn't be bogged down in this worthless war in Ukraine. 297 00:24:47,780 --> 00:24:52,780 If it was China, they would control everything we have, more so than they already do. 298 00:24:52,780 --> 00:25:08,780 It's unimaginable because we've seen these things since the 1930s. So to think that the Chinese who had a famine back in the 1950s, for instance, would have also had anti-gravity craft that could display such capabilities, it's just unfathomable really. 299 00:25:12,780 --> 00:25:20,780 That is not what we're talking about. Natural phenomenon. That kills me. It's like a distraction. 300 00:25:20,780 --> 00:25:30,780 But sure, people can see some natural weather phenomenon and misidentify it as unidentified until it's known. Sure, that can happen. It's not what we're talking about. 301 00:25:34,780 --> 00:25:42,780 We're dealing with an actual physical object that shows up on radar and other weapons systems. I think we can safely rule those out as being atmospheric phenomena. 302 00:25:42,780 --> 00:25:49,780 We're going against the wind. The winds are hunting point out west. 303 00:25:49,780 --> 00:26:00,780 These are our most highly trained observers. We train them for millions of dollars. We send them up against potential adversaries to protecting our country. They're not going to be easily hoodwinked by flying trash. 304 00:26:01,780 --> 00:26:12,780 That's a mental gymnastics thing when you say other, right? I guess that's a good way to do it. You know, if you want to just be completely broad with it. 305 00:26:12,780 --> 00:26:23,780 I think that's done to put people at ease, not to spark potential panic because they don't know how the public's going to react. If you put it out there, there may be non-human intelligence. That's a major risk. 306 00:26:23,780 --> 00:26:28,780 It may upset a lot of people, unnerve a lot of people in institutions as well, such as churches. 307 00:26:28,780 --> 00:26:44,780 I am as in the dark as you about what UFOs truly represent to humanity. I just know that we can exclude certain things. And once we exclude those things, those exotic possibilities, those are the ones that truly excite me. 308 00:26:44,780 --> 00:26:52,780 We know people misidentify things. We're not talking about that. We're talking about the important stuff, the other. 309 00:26:52,780 --> 00:27:03,780 A report by this country's top intelligence officials acknowledges there have been 18 encounters in which so-called unexplained aerial phenomena demonstrate advanced technology. 310 00:27:03,780 --> 00:27:11,780 This ended up being disappointing for a lot of people because it was only nine pages long. And we all believe that the UFO problem, that it deserves more than that. 311 00:27:11,780 --> 00:27:18,780 But it was a huge step forward because it's acknowledges right there in writing. It was something that was demanded and it was followed through on. 312 00:27:18,780 --> 00:27:26,780 We've made leaps and we've made bounds since then, but this was a critical moment in how we got to where we are today. 313 00:27:26,780 --> 00:27:34,780 The report states that some of these uncharacterized UAP appear to have demonstrated unusual flight characteristics and require further analysis. 314 00:27:34,780 --> 00:27:42,780 From that Pentagon report all the way up to this important moment in Congress, we had momentum. 315 00:27:48,780 --> 00:28:05,780 We begin with that historic UFO hearing on Capitol Hill today as we just said, the bipartisan push for transparency certainly decades in the making. 316 00:28:05,780 --> 00:28:12,780 The nation watched gripping testimony of UAPs and demands for greater transparency on this issue. 317 00:28:12,780 --> 00:28:19,780 This was, I think, a chance for the public to hear what we as reporters had been hearing from experts like that for a long time. 318 00:28:19,780 --> 00:28:25,780 Have you met with people with direct knowledge or have direct knowledge yourself of non-human origin craft? 319 00:28:25,780 --> 00:28:30,780 Yes, I personally interviewed those individuals. 320 00:28:30,780 --> 00:28:48,780 It was his duty, David Grush, it was his job at that time to look for UFO, UAP, exploitation programs, legacy UFO programs, and damn, did he find it. 321 00:28:48,780 --> 00:28:57,780 I was informed in the course of my official duties of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program. 322 00:28:57,780 --> 00:29:03,780 It was an earthquake and I can guarantee you that it's going to be documented in history books. 323 00:29:03,780 --> 00:29:06,780 300 years from now, school kids are going to be learning about that hearing. 324 00:29:06,780 --> 00:29:17,780 So the first time you got to hear in Congress from a whistleblower and he is out there telling Congress that there are programs, illegal programs, 325 00:29:17,780 --> 00:29:28,780 that have been hidden from Congressional oversight that relate to retrieval and reverse engineering of craft of non-human origin and the pilots as well. 326 00:29:28,780 --> 00:29:30,780 That is earth shattering. 327 00:29:30,780 --> 00:29:33,780 Were they, I guess, human or non-human biologics? 328 00:29:33,780 --> 00:29:39,780 Non-human and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I talked to that are currently still on the program. 329 00:29:39,780 --> 00:29:43,780 Speaking to a source recently, he was at that hearing. 330 00:29:43,780 --> 00:29:55,780 When David Grush admitted or alleged that there had been non-human biologics retrieved from some of those craft, you could hear a pin drop in that room. 331 00:29:55,780 --> 00:30:01,780 You've said that U.S. has intact spacecraft. 332 00:30:01,780 --> 00:30:05,780 You said that the government has alien bodies or alien species. 333 00:30:05,780 --> 00:30:10,780 Have you seen the spacecraft? 334 00:30:10,780 --> 00:30:18,780 I have to be careful to describe what I've seen firsthand and not in this environment, but I could answer that question behind closed doors. 335 00:30:18,780 --> 00:30:23,780 David Grush spoke under oath. If he's lying, he's going to jail. 336 00:30:23,780 --> 00:30:26,780 Okay, so that's a really, really big thing, the fact that he spoke under oath. 337 00:30:26,780 --> 00:30:30,780 It's one thing for the government to say, well, there's something out there we're going to look into. 338 00:30:30,780 --> 00:30:32,780 We'll get back to you people on that. That's not good enough. 339 00:30:32,780 --> 00:30:39,780 That still gives the U.S. government the ability to cover under this veneer of, well, we're just going to investigate. 340 00:30:39,780 --> 00:30:45,780 But if you get an acknowledgement that they've actually had possession of, I mean, let's get real here. 341 00:30:45,780 --> 00:30:53,780 Alien tech, alien bodies, there's no way you can then say, well, we're going to look into this honestly. 342 00:30:53,780 --> 00:30:58,780 That's an admission they've been lying for a long time. 343 00:30:58,780 --> 00:31:03,780 That's an admission of truly the greatest conspiracy ever. 344 00:31:09,780 --> 00:31:13,780 I'd like to thank everybody who was here sticking through the entire hearing. 345 00:31:13,780 --> 00:31:19,780 If there's no further business without objection, the subcommittee stands adjourned. 346 00:31:19,780 --> 00:31:28,780 We are in the midst of what you can genuinely call is a revolutionary period. 347 00:31:28,780 --> 00:31:33,780 I am convinced that we are actually within the midst of a global revolution on many levels. 348 00:31:33,780 --> 00:31:40,780 You look at the UFO or UAP subject and you see this, what I call insurgency happening from within. 349 00:31:40,780 --> 00:31:48,780 That over the last several years has resulted in much more information coming out on this and a much greater level of public conversation. 350 00:31:48,780 --> 00:32:05,780 And if it results in a genuine breakthrough, a real breakthrough, a meaningful one in which some kind of genuine honesty is forced by government authorities, high-level government authorities, 351 00:32:05,780 --> 00:32:08,780 then you can call that a revolution, a disclosure revolution. 352 00:32:08,780 --> 00:32:13,780 We want to know what's going on, first of all, because this is big, it's important, it matters. 353 00:32:13,780 --> 00:32:24,780 We want to know. But B, it can have the ability, hopefully, to wake us up into the recognition that, hey, you've been lied to for 80 years. 354 00:32:24,780 --> 00:32:27,780 What else has been kept from you? 355 00:32:31,780 --> 00:32:38,780 You know, you're in a society where for so long has been the seat of lies. 356 00:32:38,780 --> 00:32:42,780 We really have to understand this is not a trivial thing. 357 00:32:42,780 --> 00:32:48,780 I don't think it's something where you can just take the broom and just sweep it up and put it in the dustpan and, okay, everything's good now. 358 00:32:48,780 --> 00:32:51,780 I don't think that is necessarily possible. 359 00:32:51,780 --> 00:32:59,780 We may be dealing with some seriously deep structural issues here of secrecy and whatever else is going on in the truth here. 360 00:32:59,780 --> 00:33:01,780 It could be very difficult. 361 00:33:02,780 --> 00:33:14,780 Congressman Tim Burchett is joining a growing chorus of lawmakers asking the Pentagon to release what it knows about unidentified anomalous phenomena, also known as UAPs. 362 00:33:20,780 --> 00:33:23,780 Well, first of all, I don't trust the U.S. government. 363 00:33:23,780 --> 00:33:27,780 In the United States, Congressman, I think both parties, frankly, are corrupted. 364 00:33:28,780 --> 00:33:41,780 Since 1947, there's incredible proof out there that we are not alone and to think that we're the best that God can do to me is very arrogant and naive. 365 00:33:45,780 --> 00:33:47,780 In 1947, there was an incident. 366 00:33:49,780 --> 00:33:51,780 They claimed that there was a crash. 367 00:33:51,780 --> 00:33:54,780 They put a press release out since Salsa recovered. 368 00:33:54,780 --> 00:34:02,780 It was actually July 7, 1947, when the outside world found out something unusual had happened near Roswell, New Mexico. 369 00:34:02,780 --> 00:34:08,780 The headlines from the Roswell Daily Record shocked its readers with news of a captured flying saucer. 370 00:34:08,780 --> 00:34:12,780 It was in all the papers nationwide, worldwide, if you will, at that time. 371 00:34:12,780 --> 00:34:16,780 And then the next day, they brought out Jesse Marcell. 372 00:34:17,780 --> 00:34:23,780 There's a famous picture of him holding like some cellophane and some sticks or something. 373 00:34:23,780 --> 00:34:25,780 Oh, he made a mistake. It was a hot air balloon. 374 00:34:25,780 --> 00:34:32,780 Now, how do you go from a saucer recovered to basically tissue paper? 375 00:34:36,780 --> 00:34:44,780 Frank Kaufman was a civilian working for the Army 50 years ago, and he says he saw a crashed spaceship and alien bodies. 376 00:34:44,780 --> 00:34:48,780 And we noticed one body that was half in and half out of the craft. 377 00:34:48,780 --> 00:34:52,780 The other body was slammed up against the Arroyo. 378 00:34:52,780 --> 00:34:54,780 You go back to the Kennedy assassination. 379 00:34:54,780 --> 00:35:00,780 Good gosh, JFK was assassinated over 60 years ago, and yet they won't release anything on it. 380 00:35:00,780 --> 00:35:04,780 It's just its power, its corruption, its control, its money. 381 00:35:04,780 --> 00:35:07,780 And those are all the things that really prop up Washington today. 382 00:35:08,780 --> 00:35:13,780 Has the US government become aware of actual evidence of extraterrestrial, 383 00:35:13,780 --> 00:35:16,780 otherwise unexplained forms of intelligence? 384 00:35:16,780 --> 00:35:19,780 I like to use the term non-human. I don't like to denote origin. 385 00:35:19,780 --> 00:35:22,780 I've talked to experts. I've seen testimony from astronauts. 386 00:35:24,780 --> 00:35:29,780 I've talked to fighter pilots, some of the best in the world, and they tell me that they've chased these craft. 387 00:35:30,780 --> 00:35:35,780 And yet the Pentagon says they don't exist, and now we're talking about throwing money at it. 388 00:35:35,780 --> 00:35:37,780 And all of a sudden they say they want to study it. 389 00:35:37,780 --> 00:35:39,780 You know, they lose billions of dollars every year. 390 00:35:39,780 --> 00:35:41,780 They've never passed an audit. 391 00:35:41,780 --> 00:35:44,780 And you know, as I like to say, the Pentagon is a bunch of war pimps anyway. 392 00:35:44,780 --> 00:35:46,780 How can you trust that bunch? 393 00:35:46,780 --> 00:35:50,780 So the American public deserves transparency. We deserve to know what's going on. 394 00:35:54,780 --> 00:35:59,780 I had a conversation with somebody called me over the weekend that was very high up in the Trump administration. 395 00:35:59,780 --> 00:36:05,780 They told me that I'd kicked a horn at its nest and that there were words where I needed to get some bodies around me. 396 00:36:05,780 --> 00:36:09,780 I take that very serious. You know, you're talking about upsetting the apple cart. 397 00:36:09,780 --> 00:36:12,780 And the Pentagon is billions and billions of dollars. 398 00:36:12,780 --> 00:36:18,780 Is there any hesitation on your part to keep pushing forward on this? 399 00:36:18,780 --> 00:36:19,780 Hell no. 400 00:36:22,780 --> 00:36:27,780 I'm not going to back down. It might cause me to lose an election, but it's not going to cause me to back down. 401 00:36:29,780 --> 00:36:41,780 So George and I are going to go have a throw down with Joe Rogan, a powerful Joe Rogan, talking about our favorite guilty pleasure, UFOs. 402 00:36:46,780 --> 00:36:50,780 Which I don't feel like is a guilty pleasure, and I don't feel like it's a rare conversation. 403 00:36:50,780 --> 00:36:53,780 This is like all we think about. 404 00:36:54,780 --> 00:37:01,780 For me, this will be, I think, like round five with Joe Rogan on the Joe Rogan podcast. 405 00:37:01,780 --> 00:37:06,780 I'm super grateful because he makes a point to allow this conversation to happen. 406 00:37:06,780 --> 00:37:11,780 Are you apprehensive at all that some of the stuff that they're releasing is bullshit? 407 00:37:11,780 --> 00:37:12,780 Of course. 408 00:37:12,780 --> 00:37:14,780 Wait, wait, wait. Who's releasing? 409 00:37:14,780 --> 00:37:21,780 The Pentagon's talking about it when, you know, intelligent officials, you ever wonder whether or not it's disinformation? 410 00:37:21,780 --> 00:37:24,780 I think it's a very healthy suspicion to have. 411 00:37:24,780 --> 00:37:31,780 My perspective is a little different in that people are always coming at me with fake information, like every day, all the time. 412 00:37:31,780 --> 00:37:41,780 Here's what I know. I know that there are people in government that want some level of disclosure on whatever this is without defining it. 413 00:37:41,780 --> 00:37:47,780 We have a history of disinformation and misinformation put out to the public and to Congress. 414 00:37:47,780 --> 00:37:54,780 By the intelligence community, by the Pentagon, they lie all the time. It comes, it's part of the turf, it's part of the job. 415 00:37:54,780 --> 00:37:55,780 What has Grush said? 416 00:37:55,780 --> 00:38:00,780 Grush said they definitely have physical crafts. 417 00:38:00,780 --> 00:38:02,780 Let me just set the scene for you with this hearing thing, right? 418 00:38:02,780 --> 00:38:09,780 I know when people think this is like orchestrated, man, we fought for every millimeter of doing that hearing. 419 00:38:09,780 --> 00:38:10,780 Like I personally did. 420 00:38:10,780 --> 00:38:17,780 So did George. And the idea was, what can we put out to the public and let everybody know this is important to us? 421 00:38:17,780 --> 00:38:23,780 I think there are inescapable national security implications for this technology. There is a race for it. 422 00:38:23,780 --> 00:38:28,780 We're trying to get it. The Russians are trying to get it. The Chinese are trying to get it. Whoever gets it, they win. 423 00:38:28,780 --> 00:38:44,780 It's hot as balls. I'll just put it that way. This is Texas during a heat wave. On the average day, this is the fucking average day. 424 00:38:44,780 --> 00:38:49,780 This is, I probably cursed too much. I'm sorry. This is an average day, man. 425 00:38:50,780 --> 00:38:58,780 You know, George and I, we work on this every damn day. And this is not a job that we get paid for. 426 00:38:58,780 --> 00:39:08,780 I actually have a real job. But luckily it's real estate. I buy and my wife and I fix up properties. 427 00:39:08,780 --> 00:39:13,780 So this UFO thing is because we want to know the truth. 428 00:39:13,780 --> 00:39:20,780 They say that when you look at things in retrospect, you know, hindsight is 20-20. Not really the case for me. 429 00:39:22,780 --> 00:39:31,780 I always thought I would be a martial athlete, a mixed martial arts, training jujitsu and wrestling and boxing. That's what I love. 430 00:39:31,780 --> 00:39:39,780 I never thought I would do anything else. Going from, you know, a martial athlete to where I am today with investigative reporting and journalism. 431 00:39:39,780 --> 00:39:45,780 We are now at a critical moment, a critical point where the right questions are being asked by the right people. 432 00:39:45,780 --> 00:39:49,780 And let me tell you, it's a pressure cooker. It's not something that was planned. 433 00:39:49,780 --> 00:39:57,780 So my life is this inspector-crusseau kind of journey where I'm constantly being misidentified, being qualified to be able to do something. 434 00:39:57,780 --> 00:40:02,780 Jeremy is a core bell. Jeremy Corbell is an investigative filmmaker. He's on the right of your screen. 435 00:40:02,780 --> 00:40:13,780 If even one of these sightings is real and it is in fact a craft of origin from somewhere other than Earth, just one out of the millions, then we have a real phenomena. 436 00:40:13,780 --> 00:40:20,780 Jeremy is not a guy who's going to soften his words. He's very straightforward about what he believes. He can be a little brash sometimes. 437 00:40:20,780 --> 00:40:24,780 I think people are a little afraid of me because, you know, a little bit of a maniac sometimes. 438 00:40:24,780 --> 00:40:28,780 But he's not somebody that you're going to scare off and he doesn't really care too much about what people think about him. 439 00:40:33,780 --> 00:40:45,780 This thing with George, where we're running around the world, kicking down doors, it has taken us to some weird places, man. 440 00:40:45,780 --> 00:40:56,780 I put more into this time-wise and financially than I will ever get back. And I'm at peace with that because I fucking love it. 441 00:40:56,780 --> 00:41:01,780 George and I get to talk with people and we get to hear just about one of the biggest questions there is. 442 00:41:01,780 --> 00:41:04,780 You know, what is going on with this UFO thing? 443 00:41:06,780 --> 00:41:15,780 I didn't know what I was doing, but I wasn't even a filmmaker yet. But I realized every time I pointed that camera at somebody, they would spill the beans. 444 00:41:15,780 --> 00:41:24,780 And I thought, well, if that's... if this camera is a passport into secrets, just holding a shitty little camera, then I got to point this somewhere where it matters. 445 00:41:24,780 --> 00:41:33,780 And so I started filming this guy, John Lear, the Godfather of Conspiracy, one of the craziest old bastards I ever met, but one of the most likable. 446 00:41:33,780 --> 00:41:38,780 We saw one of the government extraterrestrial UFOs fly over there. 447 00:41:38,780 --> 00:41:46,780 These catamulations, they take the hormones and the enzymes from those cattle and they spread it on their skin and their skin absorbs the nutrients. 448 00:41:46,780 --> 00:41:50,780 If you look right at center of the moon, that is the Sinus Meta. 449 00:41:50,780 --> 00:41:57,780 And right in the middle of the Sinus Meta is a tower that stands six miles high. 450 00:41:58,780 --> 00:42:05,780 As some of the shit he told me ended up being true, unbelievable stuff about UFOs. 451 00:42:05,780 --> 00:42:09,780 So I had done that for quite some time, kind of under the radar. 452 00:42:09,780 --> 00:42:12,780 And I kept trying to get to George and I'd call his news station. 453 00:42:12,780 --> 00:42:15,780 I'd been, hey, can I talk with George now? This is Jeremy Corbell. 454 00:42:15,780 --> 00:42:17,780 I had no idea who I was. 455 00:42:17,780 --> 00:42:19,780 Trying to get to George, trying to get to George. 456 00:42:19,780 --> 00:42:24,780 A couple emails here and there, always face the mouth six months, make sure I'm not, you know, being... 457 00:42:24,780 --> 00:42:27,780 ...attacky. But yeah, stalk the shit out of George. 458 00:42:27,780 --> 00:42:32,780 And then one day I get this call, I go, hello? And they go, hold for George now. 459 00:42:32,780 --> 00:42:38,780 And I'm like, what, what, what? Remember, I'm trying to get to this guy for two fucking years, right? 460 00:42:38,780 --> 00:42:44,780 And I was like, holy shit, right? This is my one chance to impress upon George that I'm serious, 461 00:42:44,780 --> 00:42:48,780 that I want to know the truth, that I'm not being judgmental, that I'm kind of a filmmaker, 462 00:42:48,780 --> 00:42:54,780 like I've got a camera, you know? And I've been filming with John Lear, which was kind of George Knapp's gateway drug into UFOs too. 463 00:42:54,780 --> 00:42:59,780 Hello and welcome to On The Record. My guest again this week is UFO researcher John Lear. 464 00:42:59,780 --> 00:43:00,780 Mr. Lear, nice to have you here again. 465 00:43:00,780 --> 00:43:02,780 Always a pleasure to be here, George. 466 00:43:02,780 --> 00:43:09,780 And there he is. This is George. And I was just like, okay, here we go. This is what I got. I just go, 467 00:43:09,780 --> 00:43:14,780 my name is Jeremy Corbell. I've been following this UFO thing for quite some time. I'm not a crazy person, I'm a normal person, 468 00:43:14,780 --> 00:43:18,780 but I do have a camera and I've been documenting this guy named John Lear. I really want to know the truth about UFOs. 469 00:43:18,780 --> 00:43:21,780 I have no preconceived notions. I just want to know, does Bob Bazar tell the truth? He's not telling the truth. 470 00:43:21,780 --> 00:43:24,780 You've been the kingpin, the lynchpin, you reported this. You're a trusted person. 471 00:43:24,780 --> 00:43:29,780 I really just need to know, is there a way that you might be able to give me a briefing and basically tell me the landscape of this world 472 00:43:29,780 --> 00:43:32,780 so that I can understand it just a little bit better? 473 00:43:34,780 --> 00:43:38,780 The longest pause in telephone history. 474 00:43:39,780 --> 00:43:43,780 Then all of a sudden, I hear this kind of like, 475 00:43:46,780 --> 00:43:48,780 and I'm like, okay, so he's still on the phone. 476 00:43:48,780 --> 00:43:50,780 Okay, here I am. 477 00:43:50,780 --> 00:43:57,780 So, he throws down about an hour plus telling me what he knows, what he suspects, 478 00:43:57,780 --> 00:44:00,780 what he can prove, what he can't prove, and where this might be going. 479 00:44:00,780 --> 00:44:07,780 He did that for me with all sincerity, not really knowing me from anybody. 480 00:44:07,780 --> 00:44:11,780 So from that day forward, man, we became friends quickly. 481 00:44:11,780 --> 00:44:16,780 So we are partners in our work together. He's my mentor. 482 00:44:16,780 --> 00:44:19,780 When we sit here and talk and you give me tutorship in a way, 483 00:44:19,780 --> 00:44:24,780 and I don't even know if you know you're doing it, but how to operate, how to navigate this world, it's really powerful for me. 484 00:44:24,780 --> 00:44:26,780 But he's also family to me, you know? 485 00:44:26,780 --> 00:44:32,780 You can have all the degrees from Harvard that you want, or any other Ivy League school or Oxford or whatever, you know? 486 00:44:32,780 --> 00:44:40,780 But I tell you what is rare, someone who you can trust with your life in terms of sharing information with, someone who gets it. 487 00:44:40,780 --> 00:44:45,780 I was coming to do an interview for Weaponized, and then, you know, there was another meeting, 488 00:44:45,780 --> 00:44:48,780 and I can't talk about that on camera, but there was another meeting. 489 00:44:48,780 --> 00:44:54,780 I'm in a car with George, you're on speakerphone, and the camera crew is currently rolling. 490 00:44:54,780 --> 00:44:55,780 Is that okay? 491 00:44:55,780 --> 00:44:56,780 Absolutely fine. 492 00:44:56,780 --> 00:45:01,780 You have to be prepared as a journalist to potentially go to jail to protect your sources, 493 00:45:01,780 --> 00:45:04,780 and I have no doubt that Jeremy would do that. 494 00:45:04,780 --> 00:45:09,780 There are a lot of people that speak to Jeremy behind the scenes, and they trust Jeremy with their lives, you know? 495 00:45:09,780 --> 00:45:13,780 And this is a very, very serious thing because their lives could come under threat. 496 00:45:13,780 --> 00:45:16,780 I know I saw it in the crowd there, my buddy Jeremy Corbell. 497 00:45:16,780 --> 00:45:21,780 Mr. Corbell says the UFO is emerging as a major topic of global importance. 498 00:45:21,780 --> 00:45:25,780 I can state that as a fact, so this is huge. This is worldwide. 499 00:45:25,780 --> 00:45:30,780 There's some very good reporting being done, both in the mainstream media and outside the mainstream media. 500 00:45:30,780 --> 00:45:37,780 We live in an era now where, to be a good journalist, you don't have to be attached to the Washington Post or the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal. 501 00:45:37,780 --> 00:45:41,780 People like George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell have broken some really good stories. 502 00:45:41,780 --> 00:45:45,780 I'm a man, I am a patriot, but I'm also a pirate. 503 00:45:45,780 --> 00:45:53,780 So you have to understand something. People leak footage all the time to journalists, and sometimes it's military footage. 504 00:45:53,780 --> 00:45:59,780 And I think it's very powerful for the public to have something tangible to talk about, to analyze. 505 00:45:59,780 --> 00:46:04,780 Tonight, a newly released video raising questions about the existence of UFOs. 506 00:46:04,780 --> 00:46:08,780 The man who posted the footage is documentary filmmaker Jeremy Corbell. 507 00:46:08,780 --> 00:46:11,780 Jeremy Corbell joins me now, Jeremy. Good evening. The footage is incredible. 508 00:46:11,780 --> 00:46:20,780 And putting out those videos does push us forwards in regards to the topic, because in terms of someone who's well-versed in commons from our own background, 509 00:46:20,780 --> 00:46:25,780 I can tell you that having an image or a video really propels the topic. 510 00:46:25,780 --> 00:46:31,780 And I think in terms of the UAP field, he's probably the best communicator that we actually have. 511 00:46:31,780 --> 00:46:35,780 What's the latest and greatest in UFO information? 512 00:46:35,780 --> 00:46:40,780 The world, in my opinion, has really changed since we started talking about this. 513 00:46:40,780 --> 00:46:44,780 These are not just claims. We have corroborative visual evidence. 514 00:46:44,780 --> 00:46:51,780 There are times when they have turned off or on our nuclear weapons, and this is well-documented by our own military. 515 00:46:51,780 --> 00:46:57,780 It doesn't matter where these machines are from. We know they outpace, outmaneuver, and overperform any of our weaponry. 516 00:46:57,780 --> 00:47:01,780 This changes the fabric of our understanding of what it means to be human. 517 00:47:01,780 --> 00:47:04,780 They're coming to you and want to discuss these things with you. 518 00:47:04,780 --> 00:47:11,780 The world is creaking under the stress and the weight of the UFO reality. 519 00:47:11,780 --> 00:47:17,780 You know, look, ever since I started vetting David Grush, he's become a part of my life. We talk all the time. 520 00:47:17,780 --> 00:47:22,780 He came to George Knapp and me first, so from the very beginning, I've been vetting, vetting. 521 00:47:22,780 --> 00:47:26,780 He's become part of my life. It's an ongoing dialogue and conversation. 522 00:47:34,780 --> 00:47:44,780 Look, man, reprisals are real. 523 00:47:44,780 --> 00:47:51,780 The effect of trying to silence people, that is absolutely real as well. 524 00:47:51,780 --> 00:48:01,780 Without getting into the weeds of the conversations that I have on a weekly basis of people wanting to come forward, 525 00:48:01,780 --> 00:48:10,780 I've seen agencies that have inked already their complaints officially through the system to people like David Grush, 526 00:48:10,780 --> 00:48:15,780 who really just took it on the chin, came forward, said what he could say in that setting and said, 527 00:48:15,780 --> 00:48:19,780 I got a lot more. Get me people authorized to hear it. 528 00:48:19,780 --> 00:48:23,780 Yeah, man, you're going to take shots. And again, it's not just about having thick skin. 529 00:48:23,780 --> 00:48:28,780 You better truly, deeply be prepared to the core of who you are to take those hits. 530 00:48:32,780 --> 00:48:44,780 There are a variety of ways in which people get information to me. 531 00:48:44,780 --> 00:48:55,780 What I'm going to show you now is a footage was captured by our military in 2018. 532 00:48:55,780 --> 00:48:58,780 It's in Iraq over a sensitive facility. 533 00:48:58,780 --> 00:49:07,780 Why it caught my attention is because it was designated UAP on an identified aerophenomena by our intelligence agencies. 534 00:49:07,780 --> 00:49:13,780 And then it was treated with just spectacular secrecy. 535 00:49:13,780 --> 00:49:16,780 So it was important enough that this video was sent to me. 536 00:49:16,780 --> 00:49:21,780 It does not look like a traditional UFO, like a sphere or a saucer, 537 00:49:21,780 --> 00:49:26,780 but this shape has been seen since the beginning of UAP or UFOs. 538 00:49:26,780 --> 00:49:28,780 Call it the jellyfish UAP. 539 00:49:34,780 --> 00:49:38,780 It's in thermal. It was filmed on a weapons platform. 540 00:49:41,780 --> 00:49:44,780 You see that there's a dog there. See the animals are black. 541 00:49:44,780 --> 00:49:48,780 I'm assuming this is black hot. You see the object just went to white. 542 00:49:48,780 --> 00:49:51,780 And you'll see it going from white to black, white to black. 543 00:49:51,780 --> 00:49:54,780 And that's basically showing the heat differential. 544 00:49:54,780 --> 00:49:57,780 So it's going like hot and cold, hot and cold. 545 00:50:01,780 --> 00:50:04,780 The problem was the optics platform was jammed. 546 00:50:04,780 --> 00:50:11,780 These individuals who target with these platforms, they can shoot out an alkydotire at 27 miles away. 547 00:50:11,780 --> 00:50:15,780 But not being able to lock it was one of the first signs that something's weird. 548 00:50:19,780 --> 00:50:24,780 I was able to find direct eyewitnesses and corroborate that this event did happen. 549 00:50:24,780 --> 00:50:30,780 When individuals would target in on it with the optics, the way it was described, 550 00:50:30,780 --> 00:50:34,780 each of these hanging things, they were stiff, like they weren't moving. 551 00:50:34,780 --> 00:50:40,780 They had geometric form like scales where it was said to be scales like an armor. 552 00:50:40,780 --> 00:50:46,780 There were also people with night vision who were out and they were tasked to go look for it. 553 00:50:46,780 --> 00:50:51,780 They couldn't see it on the night vision, only in the thermal spectrum could it be seen. 554 00:50:53,780 --> 00:50:57,780 But anything that looks like that appears to have a payload, that's a big deal. 555 00:50:57,780 --> 00:51:00,780 It could be dangerous. So these are high priority. 556 00:51:00,780 --> 00:51:08,780 But what happened is there were a couple other nations involved and the feeds were shut, just shut immediately. 557 00:51:10,780 --> 00:51:12,780 So that put me on high alert too. 558 00:51:12,780 --> 00:51:16,780 Why is it completely being shut down? But that's not all it did. 559 00:51:22,780 --> 00:51:29,780 It goes out over a body of water. I'm told it stops on a dime, descends into the water, stiff into the water. 560 00:51:32,780 --> 00:51:34,780 And for 17 minutes, nothing. 561 00:51:35,780 --> 00:51:41,780 And boom, this thing comes up out of the water and shoots off at 45 degrees, just like that. 562 00:51:41,780 --> 00:51:48,780 It looks very much like what I've heard that has made incursions into nuclear facilities, 563 00:51:48,780 --> 00:51:54,780 because I know for sure fact of the matter, there is footage from inside a nuclear facility. 564 00:51:54,780 --> 00:51:57,780 And I'll just say a pantext. That's the one, man. 565 00:51:58,780 --> 00:52:06,780 Something that appears identical to this moves between these nuclear silos and shot off again at a 45 degree angle. 566 00:52:06,780 --> 00:52:12,780 What it is, I don't know. But now when it goes over a body of water, I do have some footage of that. 567 00:52:17,780 --> 00:52:22,780 This is when that same object, a jellyfish UFO, goes out over this. 568 00:52:23,780 --> 00:52:28,780 You kind of get an idea by the distance now how far these optic systems can reach. 569 00:52:28,780 --> 00:52:37,780 When it gets to that point where it's over the water, every source that I have talked with who is aware of this footage, that footage exists. 570 00:52:37,780 --> 00:52:45,780 You've got a UFO or UAP descends into the water, stiff, comes back up and then shoots off 45 degrees. 571 00:52:45,780 --> 00:52:49,780 Now, this was taken by an intelligence agency and buried. 572 00:52:49,780 --> 00:52:54,780 So I don't know, man. These are the cases that sparked me. I don't know what this is. 573 00:52:54,780 --> 00:53:00,780 I just know when I get military-filmed UAP footage designated, where people risk getting that to me, 574 00:53:00,780 --> 00:53:04,780 I take it as serious as it sounds and I try to get to the bottom of it. 575 00:53:04,780 --> 00:53:08,780 It's hard, you know, but I do have a number of direct eyewitnesses now. 576 00:53:08,780 --> 00:53:22,780 What am I sitting on? Yeah, you and every other intelligence agency on planet Earth wants to know the answer to that question. 577 00:53:24,780 --> 00:53:31,780 Look, man, I will tell you this, our government in the United States has always taken this seriously, dead seriously. 578 00:53:31,780 --> 00:53:46,780 I know for a matter of fact that the UFO topic is considered more important at a higher level of security than weapons of mass destruction. 579 00:53:46,780 --> 00:53:48,780 Launch Hilo ASAP. 580 00:53:48,780 --> 00:53:56,780 This has never been something that is adjacent to what's important to our intelligence agencies, to our own government and defense systems. 581 00:53:56,780 --> 00:54:00,780 This has always been right there front burner, whether they've admitted it or not. 582 00:54:00,780 --> 00:54:03,780 7-8-1 just fed up to 46 knots. 583 00:54:03,780 --> 00:54:05,780 Hey, hey, try to catch the picture. 584 00:54:05,780 --> 00:54:10,780 The more and more that people try to clamp down on this information, it's having the adverse effect. 585 00:54:10,780 --> 00:54:13,780 More and more witnesses are coming forward, more and more whistleblowers. 586 00:54:13,780 --> 00:54:19,780 More and more people are calling me in confidence, telling me what I need to know to take the next step. 587 00:54:19,780 --> 00:54:25,780 Yeah, there's any of that, man. This guy is not reporting T-guests. That is an unidentified flying object, bro. 588 00:54:25,780 --> 00:54:28,780 I can finally say I saw one now. That is cool. 589 00:54:28,780 --> 00:54:34,780 Knowing the truth about what UFOs represent to humanity would change humanity completely. 590 00:54:34,780 --> 00:54:37,780 People speculate that our energy would change. 591 00:54:37,780 --> 00:54:43,780 It could be the survival of planet Earth if these technologies can do what we are recording them doing. 592 00:54:43,780 --> 00:54:44,780 I don't think they should. 593 00:54:44,780 --> 00:54:46,780 Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What is that? 594 00:54:46,780 --> 00:54:52,780 But I think what UFOs represent to humanity is more important than UFOs themselves. 595 00:54:52,780 --> 00:54:54,780 Oh, my gosh! 596 00:54:54,780 --> 00:54:56,780 Okay, it's down the tree. What is that? 597 00:54:56,780 --> 00:55:04,780 Are we alone in the universe? No. Is it distant life somewhere else? No. They're coming here. 598 00:55:04,780 --> 00:55:11,780 And if that's the truth, how would it not transform everything about our world? How could it not? 599 00:55:15,780 --> 00:55:19,780 If I was to tell you about David Grosh two years ago, you would have think I'm mad. 600 00:55:19,780 --> 00:55:23,780 What I personally witnessed myself and my wife was very disturbing. 601 00:55:23,780 --> 00:55:26,780 Is there any moment where you've kind of regretted speaking up? 602 00:55:26,780 --> 00:55:29,780 I don't regret it. I didn't want to live in a matrix. 603 00:55:29,780 --> 00:55:34,780 You hear others claiming that it's an embarrassment to science. 604 00:55:34,780 --> 00:55:37,780 Mobs of scientists attack me personally. 605 00:55:37,780 --> 00:55:40,780 The United States is not particularly friendly to whistleblowers. 606 00:55:40,780 --> 00:55:45,780 There have actually been some very, very odd and mysterious injuries and deaths. 607 00:55:45,780 --> 00:55:48,780 It makes you wonder, is there something going on here? 608 00:55:49,780 --> 00:55:52,780 The UFO community is absolutely its worst enemy. 609 00:55:54,780 --> 00:55:57,780 For me, it was almost like I was being pranked, in a sense. 610 00:55:57,780 --> 00:56:03,780 Make no mistake here. Many, many, many people have stated that they've had such experiences. 611 00:56:03,780 --> 00:56:06,780 Past the foot of my bed, there were two beings. 612 00:56:06,780 --> 00:56:10,780 Very quickly, the being off the foot of my bed started moving towards me. 613 00:56:10,780 --> 00:56:15,780 The other being raised its arm that had this wand in its hand. Towards me. 614 00:56:18,780 --> 00:56:19,780 The UFO community is very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very 615 00:56:48,780 --> 00:56:50,780 age